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firefly 于 2000/08/12 02:35:46 发表在 汉英
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Never heard of such an expression. Is it Americanism or fireflyism? :)
作者：tian xin - 2000/08/12 15:51:15
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There is "fair and square" which means something else. For 不见不散，perhaps one could say: Let's meet for sure. It's a date.
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因为square跟there压韵。
作者：民办 - 2000/08/12 16:14:01
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恐怕英文的意思就是be there。加上or be square，还是一
定见面的意思。为什么加？也许是因为square跟there压韵，好听
一些，强调一定要见面。另外，be square指“公平”，但英文不
能理解成“不见面就公平”，而应该是“见面才好”。不管怎么样，
英文“be there or be square”也不好理解为“不见就两清”。
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作者：#195;#187;íü#188;#199; - 2000/08/13 14:52:20
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"Be there or be square" may be different from "不见不散"
作者：野草 - 1999/12/20 11:10:17 ***
As I understand it, "Be there or be square" is a fixed expression used usually when the speakers involved refer to an event or something that they believe really worth going to. Say, if there is a rave party on Xmas Eve for youths and you happen to be crazy about that, you want your friends to be there with you, too. So you call one of them. Upon agreeing on the time to meet, you say to her: "Right, then, 6 o'clock at the Centre. Be there or be square." This means, maybe jokingly: "I'll see you there, or you're a nerd, a bore, a ..." In Chinese, this may sound like: 够哥们儿的，就非去不可；喂我说，你不去就实在太老土了。
"不见不散", however, may not mean what was referred to above. In most cases, it means little more than "We'll meet as planned any way. If you come late, I won't go away. If you don't see me, I'll wait..." To this effect, I really don't know of any fixed expression in English like our fixed "不见不散" in Chinese. Depending on the situational contexts, it may need to be put in different ways, such as "We'll meet there no matter what, OK?" or "I'll see you there. Don't go away." or whatever.
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作者：#195;#187;íü#188;#199; - 2000/08/13 14:53:14
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"Be there or be square" may be different from "不见不散"
作者：野草 - 1999/12/20 11:10:17 ***
As I understand it, "Be there or be square" is a fixed expression used usually when the speakers involved refer to an event or something that they believe really worth going to. Say, if there is a rave party on Xmas Eve for youths and you happen to be crazy about that, you want your friends to be there with you, too. So you call one of them. Upon agreeing on the time to meet, you say to her: "Right, then, 6 o'clock at the Centre. Be there or be square." This means, maybe jokingly: "I'll see you there, or you're a nerd, a bore, a ..." In Chinese, this may sound like: 够哥们儿的，就非去不可；喂我说，你不去就实在太老土了。
"不见不散", however, may not mean what was referred to above. In most cases, it means little more than "We'll meet as planned any way. If you come late, I won't go away. If you don't see me, I'll wait..." To this effect, I really don't know of any fixed expression in English like our fixed "不见不散" in Chinese. Depending on the situational contexts, it may need to be put in different ways, such as "We'll meet there no matter what, OK?" or "I'll see you there. Don't go away." or whatever.
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至少是北美俚语。用作“不见不散”英文片名，有“驴唇”之憾。
作者：莺雏 - 2000/08/13 15:53:32
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野草的解释，符合美国用法。
京语“不见不散”：在会合地点互相等候的约定。影片情节也与此有关。
美语 "Be there or be square" 则象野草君所说明的那样，是劝赴wild party一类场合的激励语。与影片情节似无任何关联。
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Why not? I think it's perfect. You have a better
作者：idea? - 2000/08/15 15:12:37
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今天又问了两位Aussie，澳州确实有Be there or be square的 用法。是我孤陋寡闻，请谅。再谢各位的解释。
作者：tian xin - 2000/08/16 00:15:02
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